Sep 27, 2006, 12:39 AM // 00:39
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#1
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Desert Nomad
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Ectoplasm Obsolete?
Now, this is just an observation or so that I've made.
In this game, obviously more than others, money is a problem. Not really making money, but storing it. You can only trade technically 100k at a time. Keep 1mil only in storage at a time. Pretty restricting isn't it?
Well, I have my own money storing problems, and wanted to find out a way to input more money into trades. So, i started to think what could replace the symbol of wealth in Guild Wars:Ecto.
Vioalla, it hit me. Black Dye. I have noticed a pattern of, well perhaps more than a month, or more, Black dye has been 9k or over at trader. While Ecto at around 7.5.
So, the question is, since people are struggling with money management anyway, why not just switch it to :100k+(x) amount of black dyes?
If I am buying somehting for 100k+50 ecto (yes, I am aware many people don't have this type of money), why not switch just to dyes? I believe 250 stack on one pile anyway. If you save 2k for each black dye you switch for ecto ( 2k of space), then you would only need about100k+ 39 black dyes or so to reach the equivelent. Just a thought.
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Sep 27, 2006, 12:44 AM // 00:44
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#2
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: [HiDE]
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I'd rather get ectos than black dyes for my rare perfect weapon. But that's just me.
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Sep 27, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50
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#3
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Krytan Explorer
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Where would all the black dyes come from though? I think the trader would run out as there aren't the thousands of black dye floating around like ectos.
Last edited by BoredJoe; Sep 27, 2006 at 12:52 AM // 00:52..
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Sep 27, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50
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#4
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: England
Guild: Gameamp Guides [AMP]
Profession: Mo/Me
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If you want ectos you go to the UW, if you want black dye you go...um...er...
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Sep 27, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57
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#5
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Hell's Protector
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]
Profession: D/A
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Unfortunately, if the market were to crater, you actually have a use for ectos - FoW armor. This is why ectos hold some sort of value. There is only a very limited use right now for black dye, which, if the market were to crater, would have very little use (and therefore wouldn't hold its value).
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Sep 27, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59
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#6
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Summoners of Forgotten Gods
Profession: W/Mo
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People still buy for 100k + ectos? Didn't the announcement of Inscriptions kill that market?
Anyway, people with 1,000 platinum + ectos should have a rich tax put on them. There's no reason people should be sitting on that much wealth.
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Sep 27, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06
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#7
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: TW
Profession: W/
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Black Dye would not work because it isn't stable by any stretch of the imagination...
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Sep 27, 2006, 01:08 AM // 01:08
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#8
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Room V
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Make a presearing char and farm what, 2 black dyes at most a day? Or farm UW and get 2 ecto per run on a good day?
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Sep 27, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10
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#9
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The Clouds
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS]
Profession: Mo/Me
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105 ecto = fow
4 black dye = one dyed set
You can get a large quantity of ecto and have use for it, while black dye would just sit there once youve dyed stuff.
And you cant jsut magically have ecto turn into black dye.
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Sep 27, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30
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#10
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State
Guild: Damage Radius
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalki
People still buy for 100k + ectos? Didn't the announcement of Inscriptions kill that market?
Anyway, people with 1,000 platinum + ectos should have a rich tax put on them. There's no reason people should be sitting on that much wealth.
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Great, Socialism comes to GW, next we'll open a welfare office in Lion's Arch for poor players.
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Sep 27, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33
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#11
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: We are all pretty [Ugly]
Profession: Mo/Me
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I personally dont like trading with black dyes. The market is not as stable, and people are constantly buying ectos, but no one is buying black dyes.
So, I would prefer 100k+700e rather then 100k+425~ Black dyes.
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Sep 27, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38
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#12
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IGN: J C A C H E
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 843
Guild: [Liar]
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Ive never had a problem selling black dyes...if you're having trouble... Ascalon district 1...buy'em for 8k sell'em for 9k its like the effin stock market
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Sep 27, 2006, 01:42 AM // 01:42
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#13
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Desert Nomad
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i didn't go for the preview nor have i read up much about nightfall but what if the new expensive armor in Nightfall don't use Ecto but a new kind of Material? what would all the ppl with thousands of ecto do with them?
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Sep 27, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46
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#15
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: SKEC
Profession: Mo/R
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Obsidian armor(what ectos are used for), will most likely always be the most expensive armor in the game, also, FoW is a core area, so it is accesible from any chapter.
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Sep 27, 2006, 02:07 AM // 02:07
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#16
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Desert Nomad
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yeah but what if Anet wanted to eradicate the enourmous gap between the rich and the new people/poor ppl so they made ectos obsolete by adding new Obsidian armor that require new material?
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Sep 27, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19
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#17
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Krytan Explorer
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There would be no economy or rare items if they tried to do that.
If they did decide to eradicate the gap the simplest way would be to turn the servers off, because nobody would be playing the game then.
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Sep 27, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24
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#18
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No Luck No Time No Money
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Amherst College, MA
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS]
Profession: Me/
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Ectoplasm is not obsolete and will never be. It value might lower, but it will always hold value because of its use in armor. End of dicussion.
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Sep 27, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29
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#19
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Forge Runner
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Ectos can be easily turned into cash. Black dyes can't (unless you dump them to a merchant at a ripoff price) Simple as that.
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Sep 27, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29
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#20
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Banned
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Killing the game, the great equalizer.
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